Example of a Zoom Interview. Andy Szekely in Romania interviews Kevin Hogan in Minnesota.
The tech was only a laptop with no attachments at Kevin’s home. Better tech (webcam, higher speed internet) would have added to the aesthetic quality. Nevertheless, this is how you interview and this is how you are interviewed.
Recorded June, 2020 during Covid when it’s danger was at it’s lowest!
A very KIND but TOUGH interview of Kevin Hogan by Andy Szekely to find out the PROVEN TRUTH’s about influence, perusasion and communciation.
Analyzing a FULL LENGTH VIDEO with Kevin Hogan and someone he has NEVER spoken to. TWO HOURS. And every minute works.
The webcam is the laptop’s. The audio is nothing more than the laptops but the energy of interviewer and interviewee works.
This video originates in Romania where Kevin Hogan has a massive following and SO DOES HIS MENTEE,Andy Szekely who is one of Romania’s leading personal development trainers.
An appropriate intro from the guest (Kevin Hogan) for a two hour webinar
29:00 Andy tells the story about the BIG BOX he received from Kevin Hogan. What are the lessons here?
36:00 Pick a hero because they have THESE CHARACTERISTICS
38:00 Never leave your work to OLD STORIES
40:00 Understanding What is REAL and What is NOT in research, in training, in learning and being amazing your Self.
48:00 Andy says, “The difference can be FIVE centimenters (two inches).” And he’s right. You must get OTHERS to analyze their comfort level.
49:00 Pennebacker Research “stealth words”. Andy says, we look for content words and THAT IS CORRECT.
51:00 Both Andy and Kevin agree that words like “AND” and “IF” and “BECAUSE” are far more important.
53:00 Andy asks Kevin about the word, “NOW” and says he can’t find DATA to show it’s value.
54:00 Kevin discusses Milton Erickson and his VALUE as a therapist and the word “NOW.” Why don’t “we” get the SAME RESULTS?
55:00 Kevin had his students write hypnotic language patterns. Kevin reveals that they TESTED THOUSANDS of language patterns. (We don’t think Kevin tested 10,000 that Kevin suggests but there were certainly `1,000 language patterns. Each student was responsible for 30 language patterns, twice annually for a decade.) So it is possible Kevin and his team tested 10,000…)
57:00 “Don’t feel obligated” BEAUTY in action.
59:000 “Thank you.” Wow. Never underestimate.
1:00 Andy is suggesting “Your name” or “you” as a substitute, DEPENDING ON THE CULTURE.
1:03 CULTURAL DIFFERENCES
Kevin discusses how “trust” and “believe” are the SAME word.
He uses “The sky is blue” (something is true, but BELIEVE uses the same word.
English is NOT the final word in communication.
Social kissing on the cheek, (Bulgaria) (Italy) has it been out dated by covid?
Andy discusses CONTEXT
“Who sets the Frame Rules the Game.”
1:08 Empathy and Framing. Andy says Framing comes first. Kevin says “probably” and it is probably….
Andy analyzes pattern interrupts in leadership of the U.S.
Story Telling serves many purposes if you do it well. It should teach and it should reveal about the speaker.
Is story telling at the mercy of the audience.
STORY FIRST THEN DATA SECOND> They will always remember the story.
1:16 over 100 stories were catalogued the first day of an internet conference by Mesha.
“Kevin what is your favorite failure story?”
Bally’s audio didn’t work for 2500 people.
PAGINATE YOUR BLOG POSTS. Learn whether you matter.
Tough question from Andy: 6 research laws from Cialdini vs. 60 from Kevin. “How?!”
1:25 How does one test when you no longer have a school.
1:26 CHANGE ONE NAME and you can change the CENTURY people are thinking in.
Phrases don’t work. “You are a good person.” Does not work subliminally.
Harvard Business Review research we did has been replicated over and over. Post It Note!
1:30 Andy discusses his taxi research.
Kevin goes through how the results will be different if certain variables are not kept close to identical.
Predictions into the future.